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Jeff Goodman Interviews author Richard Hyman



richard-hymanOn the front page of author Richard Hyman’s website it reads:

In his personal account of SCUBA diving with Jacques Cousteau, Richard Hyman takes us behind the scenes with Cousteau’s diving team, inside the legendary ship Calypso, and under the sea to some of the world’s most breathtaking underwater SCUBA diving locations. Frogmen is an inspiring adventure that pays homage to one of the greatest explorers and visionaries of all time, Captain Jacques Cousteau.

Cousteau was a childhood hero of mine. His TV programmes enthralled me through my younger years and teens. His adventures aboard the legendary ship Calypso were an inspiration which finally led me to become an underwater cameraman and film maker. I always wondered what it would have been like to be part of his crew, exploring the oceans of the world, testing new technologies… a life of true adventure.

I asked Richard what inspired him to write Frogmen.

Book cover low res7 (4)Richard: I really wanted to tell my story. For years I talked about writing the book. Then one day my wife took my journals and typed them all up for me. That was very kind of her. That was the spark. By the way, without the journals, there’s no way I could have written the book. I was busy with my career and my family. It actually took ten years to write it.

Three things inspired me. First I wanted to do my little part to try and keep Captain Cousteau’s legacy alive, particularly with the younger generations. Second, I wanted to keep his important environmental messages alive. Finally, I wanted to inspire people of all ages to have their own adventure. Not everybody gets to work with Jacques Cousteau on Calypso, but when that once in a lifetime opportunity comes along, just do it.

Jeff: How old were you when you joined Cousteau’s team and how did it come about?

Richard: I had just turned 18 years old. I’d just graduated from High School. My father, Fred Hyman, was heading to Los Angeles for a business meeting with Captain Cousteau. Dad asked if I’d like to come along. I said yes.

That July we flew from New York to L.A. Jacques Cousteau and his son Philippe picked us up at LAX and we drove to the Cousteau office.

Dad was actually Cousteau’s business partner. He’d been recruited to come in and turn things around. The business was in trouble and Dad saved it.

Richard 1One of the great things that came out of their collaboration was The Cousteau Society. Dad was a co-founder, along with Jacques, Philippe and Jean-Michel Cousteau.

As Dad had his meeting, I checked out the amazing photographs on the walls and on a large lighted table for sorting slides.

After work we went to Philippe’s house. Dad and I were staying with Philippe. Philippe actually gave me my first SCUBA lesson right there in his pool overlooking a beautiful view of the L.A. area.

At dinner that night Jacques asked me if I’d like to drive a truck for them, from L.A. to Saskatchewan. It was going to be a rare land-based expedition. I had no idea where Saskatchewan was and it was way before smartphones and the Internet. I was intrigued though and quickly said yes.

Jeff: Were you a keen diver before working with Cousteau?

Richard: No. I always loved the sea and was a strong swimmer, but never a diver.

Richard 6I started my work as a truck driver. I also knew some carpentry, so when we got to our destination of Foster Lake I worked with three Cree Native Americans to build a cabin for the Cousteau team to winter in. That’s where the team stayed to make the film Beavers of the North Country.

In late August I had to leave for my freshman year of college and feared I’d never have another chance for this kind of adventure.

Fortunately I had the opportunity to join Calypso a year and a half later. That was as a deck hand, the lowest rung on the totem pole. It was extremely hard work. Talk about 24/7!

That’s when I knew I wanted to become a diver and photographer. After the expedition I trained for that and subsequently advanced into that role.  By the way, Calypso divers are also navigators. So you’re still pretty much 24/7.

Jeff: Diving takes people in many different ways. Some love the dangers of wrecks and the technology to dive deeper, while others are simply enthralled by the incredible marine life they can encounter. What attracted you to scuba diving?

Richard 5Richard: Well, I love water. I love the sea, being out to sea, and the life under the sea. I’m very interested in protecting the oceans and the creatures that rely on it. So to be a part of seeing and documenting the beauty, and to participate in creative adventurous educational storytelling, that’s what attracted me.

Jeff: When you became a member of the Calypso crew was it all you imagined and hoped it would be?

Richard: I don’t think I had expectations. I was pretty naïve, I just dove into the whole thing.

I certainly didn’t imagine what was actually the most intriguing aspect of the whole experience, the social element. Although the crew was primarily French, which would have been interesting enough, we had various other nationalities, including a Russian and a few Iranians, which contributed to the variety of religions, languages, diets, habits and attitudes. Particularly at such an impressionable age, 18-24, this was very impactful and not expected.

I don’t know if you have ever seen Calypso but if you saw it I think you’d be amazed at how small it is, only 139 feet long with a 25-foot beam. A flat bottomed, slow moving – top speed 11 knots, U.S.-built World War II wooden minesweeper, which slept 27. I probably didn’t expect that, or all the issues we had with the engines.

Nor did I expect the lovely Madame Simone Cousteau. Her nickname, La Bergere, means the Shepherdess. She was the real Captain. She’d mother us, discipline us, cut our hair and generally keep everybody in line.

Richard 3Jeff: I started diving in the late seventies and have witnessed the oceans become ever more overfished and polluted as each year passes. Has this affected you in any way?

Richard: Well, sure. It concerns me, terribly. It struck me hard a few years back when I was diving some shallow reefs and they were dead. The people I was with didn’t even realize it. They’d see a beautiful fish and think everything was normal, but it wasn’t. The abundance of fish was gone and the coral was dead. Reefs and species are disappearing, forever.

I think the experience infected me, in a good way. At this point in my life I want to get more involved in some meaningful action and make a difference. That is my passion.

Jeff: How do you see the future of our seas? What should we be doing to protect and secure the future?

Richard: I’m no authority. There are incredibly talented well-educated people who can answer that far better than me. I do however think we’re in real trouble. Cousteau warned us, what 50 years ago? People continue to warn us and there are certainly some positive measures being taken. But there aren’t enough critical steps happening fast enough. Where do I start? Climate change, ocean acidification, pollution, ocean dumping, plastic, Fukushima, continued overfishing, shark finning, and the barbaric archaic slaughtering and capturing of whales and dolphins in the name of so-called false tradition and the almighty dollar, etc.

We’re already paying the price. If something doesn’t change, the ultimate price will jeopardize future generations and life on earth as we know it.

Jeff: Do you still dive?

Richard: I did not dive for many years. I was just too busy, burned out, spoiled by diving with the best on the best, and probably a little freaked out as the fellow who took my job on Calypso died on a dive.

I’m grateful to my new friend Bruce Cantrell who as I like to say “got me back in the water”. He invited me to join he and Jessica Fain during their successful attempt to live and work under the sea for 73 days in Jules’ Undersea Lodge. It’s the former La Chalupa Research Laboratory. I lived with them for 24 hours at about 30 feet deep. It was an amazing experience. Our webcast can be viewed here. My SCUBA blog entry about this experience can be viewed here.

I’d like to point out that after so many years away from diving, fortunately I did hire my friend Tim Thomas to give me a refresher. It was amazing how so much of it came right back to me. Tim familiarized me with the amazing new equipment, including the BC and the Octopus. Back in the day, BCs were inflated by a CO2 cartridge or your own breath. We didn’t have the Octopus, we’d buddy breath.

It was great to “get back in the water”.

Jeff: New technologies are ever advancing and constantly provide us with exiting new innovations in ways to explore the sea. Do you keep up to date with new possibilities or are you happy to simply don a basic scuba kit and enjoy being underwater?

Richard: I am now more knowledgeable about new technologies than I was a few years ago. I’ve learned a lot but I’ve only scratched the surface. It is incredible!

I get the opportunity to speak at dive conferences and other venues, which has been educational and intriguing. Of course during my time on Calypso the technology was primitive. And although Cousteau was the Chairman of U.S. Divers we typically didn’t use the state-of-the-art.



You’ll probably be amazed to know we didn’t use BCs. I was told, “leave your BC at home, we don’t use them”. Not a single BC on the ship. I didn’t wear a watch. Most of us didn’t have an air gauge. By the way, no spear guns on the ship either. Cousteau told me that at times he regretted co-inventing the Aqua-Lung due to the devastation that spearfishing had wrought.

Jeff: Can you recount one of your favourite times when you were with Cousteau?

Richard: Sure, there were two favourites.

First, when John Denver visited us in Belize. I didn’t even know who he was, which was a cool way to get to know him. He was already famous but I guess I was into different music. Anyway, John was a great man. He spent a lot of time with me when I was on the bridge on watch. I like to think I helped influence his writing of the song Calypso. We dove together and John gave us a wonderful concert on the deck of the ship. It made for a fun night and a great setting. John won an Emmy for the show, which featured the concert.

Second, diving on the wreck of the Civil War’s ironclad, the USS Monitor.  That was off North Carolina. 230 feet on air! It was unbelievable. Unfortunately that expedition was cut short when we were hit by a freak storm. We were down to one of two engines, apparent sabotage, e.g. sugar in our fuel, so we had to retreat. There was not enough footage for television but making several dives was a favourite.

Jeff: TV has given us many undersea adventures and expeditions over the past ten to fifteen years and yet the Calypso seems to me to remain the most memorable and enduring. Would you agree? And if so, why do think that is?

Richard: I do think Calypso is a special ship. I credit Captain Cousteau. I think of Calypso as part of the brand. The ship, the videography, the music, the narration, the script, its all of that. That’s what made Calypso iconic.

You’re aware that she was accidentally rammed by a barge in Singapore in 1996 and sunk. Calypso was raised and eventually moved to France but the damage was done. It’s pretty well rotted away now and requires a total rebuild. To me that’s unrealistic.

Jeff: I can only imagine how working with the Coustau team must have taught you so many things about the world in which we live. If you could choose one thing, what would it be?

Richard: Take advantage of unforeseen opportunities. They may become a big part of your life.

Jeff: If there is one thing you hope readers of Frogmen will take from it, what would that be?

Richard: How about two things; inspiration and remembrance of Captain Cousteau?

Jeff: What’s your next project?

Richard: My Dad and I are writing a book about Cousteau. It will be great!

Jeff: Thanks Richard.

Frogmen is available now in soft cover & as an eBook.

For more information visit:

Jeff Goodman is the Editor-at-Large for with responsibility for conservation and underwater videography. Jeff is an award-winning TV wildlife and underwater cameraman and film maker who lives in Cornwall, UK. With over 10,000 dives to his credit he has dived in many different environments around the world.


Emperor Divers reaches halfway in Covid Diver Heroes Initiative with fourth award



Emperor Divers have reached the halfway point with their #coviddiverheroes initiative and are still receiving worthy nominations every day! Here, they recognise their 4th winner, another awesome hero from the diving community with an inspirational story of selflessness through the pandemic. Nominated by David White, Phuong Cao wins a free liveaboard trip in the Maldives when she can finally take some time off, and here is her story:

I, David White, would like to nominate Phuong Cao (36) for her tireless efforts fighting this pandemic. Not satisfied with being a frontline hospitalist in New York she took a second job on the COVID team in Guam to treat patients under even tougher conditions on her weeks off! She continues to commute 7750 miles each way and apply herself to both jobs for three months already and counting. Her energy level has no limits and she’s only happy when those in her care are on the mend. I think she definitely deserves a break! I guess the Maldives would be the best choice for her as I know she has dived with you in the Red Sea already.

Phuong Cao

We have been in touch with Phuong who had this to say: “Wow what a surprise! Thank you for the recognition. Holding my breath until I get back underwater!”

The halfway point is a good chance to remind people that the initiative is still running and the Emperor Divers team would love to hear about more heroes, as there are four more to award in the next 2 months!

Do you know a diver who has been heroic this past year? Emperor know that, worldwide, people have had to step up during this pandemic which has affected so many lives. They want to reward some real heroes with free liveaboard trips in the Red Sea or Maldives.

Luke Atkinson, Emperor’s Red Sea Manager, said: “This initiative is our way of saying ‘thank you’ to all those hundreds of people who have taken a selfless interest in looking after the vulnerable in their community. Examples could include healthworkers, carers or those who have come out of retirement to volunteer locally, but really we know there are many other ways people have been heroic.“

Emperor want to hear from people who know a heroic diver who would love to have a free liveaboard trip to look forward to in the future. People need to nominate a Covid Hero Diver and tell Emperor (in 100 – 200 words) why they deserve a free trip, and whether they would prefer the Red Sea or the Maldives. A multinational panel of Emperor’s most loyal and compassionate staff will judge the entries and pick a winner every 2 weeks for the next 2 months. There are two remaining Red Sea and two more Maldives liveaboards to be earned, so get nominating and give that hero a reward for their amazing work!

Winners will be announced by 14th (Maldives) and 28th (Red Sea) of each month. Final entries for Red Sea by 20th May ‘21 and Maldives 5th June ’21.

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My Dive Buddies Episode 1: Alejandro Dutto’s Best Wreck Dives! (Watch Video)



My Dive Buddies Episode 1: Alejandro Dutto’s Best Wreck Dives!

The first in a new series, where I invite my local scuba diving buddies into the Dive Locker for a beer and a chat! This week I’m chatting with Alejandro Dutto, Co-Founder of the International Scuba Divers Club and Publisher of the digital scuba magazine ‘Trim.’ I know Alejandro is a man after my own heart. Before covid hit, we dived South Florida wrecks together frequently and I’m looking forward to getting back in the water with him.

But for now, I’m happy to have a beer with him and talk about our top three favourite South Florida Wreck Dives. Alejandro also talks about the challenges of filming at technical diving depths and about his new Spanish language dive magazine.

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